Thoughts and Observations: New York Jets’ Training Camp 8/6/13

Aug 1, 2013; Cortland, NY, USA; New York Jets tight end Kellen Winslow (81) during training camp at SUNY Cortland. Mandatory Credit: William Perlman/THE STAR-LEDGER via USA TODAY Sports

It’s Tuesday, and we are just three days away from the opening preseason game against the Detroit Lions. Let’s take a look at some of the observations coming out of this morning’s training camp practice:

  • MARK SANCHEZ WON THE DAY: Mark seems to be continuing the momentum that he gained at the end of the Green and White scrimmage.  It’s not that Geno played very badly, it’s that Mark was sharper.  Geno did throw his first INT of team drills this morning.  Mark was sharp down the field as well as in the short game.
  • IVORY STILL OUT, WINSLOW IN: Chris Ivory was still on the side with the rehab group this morning.  He told Seth Walder of the Daily News that he won’t play on Friday night in Detroit, but will “definitely” be practicing on Tuesday.  Here is hoping that he is right.  Kellen Winslow was back out on the field today, and he was moving well and looking sharp.
  • VIDAL HAZELTON CARTED OFF: The young receiver was running a slant route, and got tangled up with Dee Milliner.

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  • Piazza31nyj

    Ivory’s hamstring is really starting to worry me. I can’t believe McKnight. The guy says he wants to be the starter but he shows up out of shape then gets arrested? He might not even make the opening day roster. The Goodson thing is a joke. The guy will start the year on the reserve/inactive list and probably be released. Even though Powell has had an outstanding camp, the running back situation is not looking good. The jets can’t afford to be weak at the RB spot when they’re already weak at WR

    • TheJetPress

      Can’t disagree with any of that sir

    • snappy55

      Regarding Goodson I think what Paul Newbold wrote above is dead on. Regarding Ivory and his hammy, I say it certainly was more than tweeked. As far as Joe money McKnight goes … you would think he could afford to pay a traffic ticket. Though I must admit I am pulling for him to play well as a running back this year.

  • charles gallo

    There is every reason to believe Goodson is in Rehab. The team knows where he is, and have no problem with it. They do not talk about it, since as his employer it is illegal to do so. The media is also quiet about this, there are no “where is he” investigations. Mike Goodson of the New York Jets is just not that big, so there is no money in it for gossip tabloids who are willing to pay reporters and paparazzi. While a bona fide journalist has protection under the constitution as interpreted by the courts from the non-disclosure laws, the person who leaks a story or provides information to the reporter is not. Whoever give the reporter information is doing something illegal. They are at risk for punishment by the state, their employer or whatever.

    It seems that the case for the gun charges is weak, since the driver of the car told the police the gun was his. So if Goodson has already completed Rehab it is likely there will be no jail time for the Pot found on him. Goodson is being proactive rather than reactive, the team knows this, that is why Rex is not frustrated. Completing Rehab also means the NFL is less likely to suspend him for more then one game, if that.

    I use to make referrals to Rehab programs in my job so I would like to explain some things about Rehab programs. You did not have to be an addict to go to rehab. All you had to do was feel that your abuse of a substance was causing a problem in your life and you wanted to stop. In theory, addiction only occurs when there is a physical dependency like heroin or alcohol. But a person could have a psychological dependency, and not be considered an addict. Yet they are having problems because of the abuse. That person should also go into a rehab program, although not an addict. Getting drunk once a week on Saturday nights, if you missed work on Sunday to the extent it was causing problems in your life, you should go to rehab. But rehab is very, very expensive since you are an inpatient.

    A program can be as short as 28 days and as long as a year. It depends on the type and severity of the problem. In Goodson’s case there is an indication that it is for both pot and alcohol with alcohol being the greater problem. By law, the Jets can not say he is in rehab, it is a medical problem. The Rehab programs can be modified for special situations, a trainer can be brought in, in fact some type of physical activity is a part of most programs. Goodson has a lot of time for reading and studying the playbook. A program is not prison, and it is not meant to punish, but is client-centric and meant to improve the quality of life. Including running the ball since that is Goodson’s job.

    People think Rehab is a bad thing, it is not. Rehab is short for rehabilitation an is Vindication of a person’s character and the re-establishment of that person’s reputation. It is a good thing not a bad thing. Rehab is nothing more then a period of time for isolation from the people and triggers that cause you to abuse the substance. It is also a chance for the substance to drain from your body and your body to adjust to once again being substance free. Doctors are there so that if you have a physical addiction, not just a dependency, they can treat the side effects of withdrawal (DT’s or “delirium tremens in the case of alcohol). These are combined with a education program in order to learn how to avoid the abuse of substance in the future. When completed it is followed by an outpatient program for support and reinforcement.

    The most important thing is the client wants to change their behavior, it can not be forced on someone and be successful. Goodson wanted to change, because of his character defects his usage caused, and that is a good thing.

    • TheJetPress

      Great stuff Charles. I don’t think we take the time to think about the person enough, other than how they relate to the team. Thanks for bringing it back.

    • Paul Newbold

      It could be true that he is in rehab. If so, its the best kept secret in NYC!! Yes he’s not a huge name in the NFL, and yes the Jets couldn’t release that information if he were, by law. But considering the “wolves” and “ambulance chasers” of the NYC gossip columns(oops I meant sports columns), they surely would have tracked him down. The gossip columnists never have a problem when its a Hollywood movie star checking into a rehab!! As an individual who knows first hand about addiction, I pray he is getting help! I hesitate to think that the Jets would send any type of trainer to rehab however, while there you are supposed to be solely focused on recovery! Rehab is mostly sitting in group therapies, sitting with counselors, sitting in classrooms, with a small part of the day set aside for “physical activities”. That is a lot of sitting!! Goodson wouldn’t possibly be anywhere near football ready upon release, and if he is, I’d be concerned about his recovery! I don’t expect to see him in Green and White any time soon, and we might see him in a orange jumpsuit before all is said and done.

      • Paul Newbold

        History 101: Before the “rehab trend” they were simply “insane asylums”. I don’t like to “sugar coat” addiction, I prefer the latter term! Because God knows I was insane back then. Good luck Mike…wherever you are!

      • charles gallo

        The source for any news story would be breaking the law. They could be punished and there is not enought money in it to make it worthwhile taking the chance. This story would not sell a ton of newspapers.

        There are many different Rehab facilities, most of them private and relativity small. They set their own rules as to what is possible for each client.

    • matr dontelli iii

      Nice job, Charles. Real nice post. We can only hope you’re right and he is indeed in rehab. I had been thinking it’s either drug or mental related, if you’re right that would make me right as well, though you’d be far more accurate. As far as the team goes, imagine if they were to go 3-1 to start, without Holmes or Goodson and then both join the team for game five? What a boost that would be!

  • matr dontelli iii

    If Markie gets his confidence going this could get interesting, and really benefit the team. Imagine if Geno continues to play well and Markie just outplays him to win the starting job?!?

    • TheJetPress

      If that is what happens, that would be great. Would love to see them push each other to make the decision hard.

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