Running Quarterbacks Through the Years

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JOHN ELWAY

Most everybody knows about this guy. Long career, all with Denver after forcing a trade from Baltimore, ran into a lot of hard luck until his last 2 seasons, when Denver won back to back Super Bowls.

Elway ran around a lot as well, with over 3,400 yards rushing over his career, 33 TDs on the ground, and a 4.4 yard average per rush. His best year rushing was 1987, with 304 yards rushing, and he had 6 TDs on the ground in 1991. In any season that he was in all 16 game, he only rushed for under 4 yards per carry once. He didn’t put up the yardage totals that Tebow does, again, different game.

RANDALL CUNNINGHAM

Here you have a guy that in a few seasons, put up rushing numbers similar to Tim Tebow’s.  Randall Cunningham.  He made his name in the 80s and 90s, so I will give some background on Randall for younger readers.  He was drafted by the Eagles in 1985, and played with them until 1995.  They made playoff appearances and Cunningham played well, although he has no Super Bowl wins to his credit.  He was in Minnesota from 1997-1999 after being out of the league in 1996.  He finished his career with Dallas in 2000, and Baltimore in 2011.

We are going to take a look at his early career, through 1991, because after that he suffered an injury that hampered his running and athletic ability.  Beginning in 1986 when he took over the Eagles starting QB job full time, until 1990 which was the season before he got hurt, he never rushed for under 500 yards.  He rushed for 6 yards per carry or more in each season and rushed for 942 yards in 1990.

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Topics: Alan Schechter, Backup Quarterback, Completion Percentage, John Elway, NY Jets, Randall Cunningham, Running Quarterback, Steve Young, Tebowmania, Tim Tebow

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  • Mopp

    I am always surprised at your lack of detail.  Tim Tebow set Florida state passing records while in High School. Tim Tebow holds multiple SEC passing records in College. He also hold national records. Look them up. He also went 33-35 in the last game he played in college. His college record is better than John Elway.  His first year playing and wins and winning percentages are better than John Elways, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning etc. for the same  time frame. He also won more games than new Wonder boy Cam Newton while starting the same amount. Look at the numbers and really compare rather than continue regurgitating information. Lay out all the number for Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, John Elway, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Steve Young for the same time frame and lets use the same yard stick that was used  for them with Tim Tebow.  Objective view points seem to be far and few between    run the numbers, run the numbers, run the numbers, on all of these players that have become Super bowl Champions  for the same time frame that Tebow has started

    • Alan Schechter

      You are entitled to your opinion, but I don’t agree.

      Yes he won more games than the guys you mentioned, those guys were going through growing pains of young quarterbacks, that all go through. Show me a guy that has won playing the style of Tim Tebow? It’s never happened.

      And as far as the numbers, look at the completion percentages. Steve Young never completed less than 50%. Peyton Manning only had one season throwing for less than 60% completion percentage. You can compare the numbers all you like. It bares out as I described in the article.

      As a Tim Tebow fan you may not like to hear it, but Tebow needs to improve as a drop back passer. He won a lot of games last year, and if you read carefully I acknowlege that every time. After a year of it, teams have tape on him now. If Tim Tebow is as good as you think, how did the Patriots, who had one of the worst defenses in 2011, eat him for lunch? They destroyed him.

      The reason, they didn’t allow him running lanes. They forced him to be an NFL passer, and he isn’t one. If he is so good, why did Denver get rid of him? A lot of teams didn’t have Peyton Manning, and didn’t try for him either.

      I appreciate your opinions, if you are always surprised that means you visit a lot. But, Tim Tebow fans look at him through rose colored glasses, I’m sorry.

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  • Murf47

    Mopp just covered it all. Articles like this should compare numbers within the same time frame of each player.

    • Alan Schechter

      And Tim Tebow fans need to be honest about their guy. I DID compare the numbers from the same time, those guys had good completion percentages, Tebow does not.

      And I ask you the same question I asked Mopp. If Tim Tebow is so good, why didn’t the Broncos keep him?

  • SeanLDurham

     @Mopp Bringing up Tebow’s college accomplishments huh?  Nice…..while we’re at it lets bring up Brad Smith’s college accomplishments as well considering he broke ALL kinds of passing and rushing records at Missouri.
    BLAH….
    Problem with your INVALID comparisons to OTHER notable QBs is that those QBs dont have to deal with fundamentally FLAWED mechanics.  No ONE CARES about Tebow’s college accomplishments anymore.  His college accomplishments didn’t mean JACK to John Elway.  John Elway showed you and EVERYONE else just WHAT he thought of Tebow’s college “accomplishments” when he traded him at the DROP of a hat INSTEAD of having him SIT behind and LEARN from one of the BEST QBs in the league…..That’s what I would have done had I felt Tebow had a chance in becoming a legit franchise QB but Elway, a former PRO QB, didnt see in Tebow what Tebow fanatics see in him and that says ALOT…..
     
    Tebow’s “success” with the Broncos STARTS with the fact that he was at the helm a SEVERELY SIMPLER offense than Newton, Sanchez, Elway and any OTHER QB you want to compare him to.
    How did the Broncos win most of those comeback games last year? Was it from Tebow dissecting the defense through the air?? No it was from Tebow being able to play the option and only finding success through the air because teams had to start defending the run (also from Marion Barber being an EFFIN IDIOT) It’s how he beat the Jets for christ’s sake! It had little to do with his abilities as a passer, and more to do with his athletic abilities.  The Pitt playoff game was the only real game I saw where I felt like he carried his team as a true passer. But that’s one game… Look Tebow could develop into a fine QB, or he may never but could still be an excellent athlete in football in other roles. Since he’s on the Jets I hope he does great doing whatever they have him do. But people need to get over the delusion that this guy is a good QB right now. He’s not.
    Bringing up Tebow’s college numbers is about as LOGICAL as expecting him and his 47% career comp% to come in and beat out Sanchez for the starting job.  Tebow proponents dont want to argue LEGIT facts when it comes to Tebow and his IMMENSE flaws, they just want to throw up MEANINGLESS and pointless regurgitated Skip Bayless talking points and that just isn’t going to FLY….
    Debate FACTS……talk about how Bellichick EMBARRASSED Tebow in the playoffs holding him to a PUTRID 34.6 % comp% against the leagues WORST pass defense.
    Talking about “objective views” and you’re bringing up irrelevant and meaningless college stats and references……run the numbers? You mean the numbers that says Tebow’s comp = 46.5% and Cam Newton’s comp = 60% ?….should we start with THOSE numbers?
     
    #Child Please!

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