Comments on: Why won’t the Jets listen? http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/ A New York Jets Blog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:29:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Aileen http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Aileen Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:06:56 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-189 Hello everyone. What if this weren't a hypothetical question? I am from Montenegro and also now'm speaking English, give please true I wrote the following sentence: "Purchase low priced airline tickets online, find vacation packages, and make hotel reservations, find maps, destination information, travel news and more." With best wishes :-), Aileen. Hello everyone. What if this weren’t a hypothetical question?
I am from Montenegro and also now’m speaking English, give please true I wrote the following sentence: “Purchase low priced airline tickets online, find vacation packages, and make hotel reservations, find maps, destination information, travel news and more.”

With best wishes :-) , Aileen.

]]> By: Brad Cotter http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-129 Brad Cotter Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:40:41 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-129 By beef, I meant lines.... not just the O-line obviously... By beef, I meant lines…. not just the O-line obviously…

]]> By: Brad Cotter http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-128 Brad Cotter Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:04:05 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-128 <p>Wayne, couldn't agree with you more... My family had season tickets until their move to Florida, but I still know a bunch of guys that go every Sunday for 20+ years. The last thing we need is a guy who is wearing Packers colors under our Jersey. The only way this team will ever earn some respect is to demand a commitment to this organization from each of their players... regardless of their last name... and yes, Tannenbaum should've been out, and Shannahan should've been in... but Ryan is a strong candidate and I'll give the dude a chance! Love the Boss reference too!!! My wife's a "Jersey Girl" so I gotta give Bruce his love!!! Jeff- I definitely agree that the defense fell off in the second half of the season. In my opinion this is directly related to Time of Possession. The beginning of the year, the Jets were running the ball and allowing the defense to rest (most importantly Kris Jenkins) but in the second half of the year, this became a throw first team. That will hurt the defense every time. Look at what makes a good defensive squad... It's a good running game and a quarterback that doesn't put them in bad position. IowaChick- I know it's hard to accept the truth. It's very hard to look at a guy who you root for and accept the truth that they just don't have it anymore. Unfortuntatley, when you really look at the numbers, and the way Brett has held Green Bay hostage for the past 5 years it's funny you feel this way. When it comes to our favorite guys, we turn a blind eye to the truth. I understand. Unfortunately, this is not a new thing I'm saying. I've been talking about this for the last 5 years. Brett Favre sells, because the NFL markets him too... not cause he's the best QB. Unfortunately, if he does this crap in NY, we'll call him on it. He was able to hide in Wisconsin for the last decade with fans like yourself that will just give him a pass, because those INT's are so exciting... LOL!!! Patrick- please bro, I beg of you not to ever call an interception "exciting, beautiful and full of passion for the game" That's like telling your kids that they don't need to study all week for a test on Friday, as long as when they take that test that they do it with passion. They used to study and were the top of the class, but instead now they wing it on test day and fail with passion...??? Yup, very respectable. Scott- You're right... it's a team game... but unfortunately in this league, you have guys making lots of money that are brought in for specific reasons.  BELIEVE ME, if Favre would've come into this team and managed this team to the best of his abilities without leading the league in PICK's... ARE YOU GUYS PAYING ATTENTION? THIS GUY YOU'RE DEFENDING LED THE NFL IN INT'S, AND HAS DONE THAT MULTIPLE TIMES IN HIS CAREER!!! THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU ALL KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS THAT SOMEONE WITH HIS STATS @ 39 YEARS OLD WOULD'VE BEEN RAN OUTTA TOWN A LONG TIME AGO... BESIDES THE FACT WOODY WANTED TO SELL JERSEYS AND SELL PSL'S. THAT'S THE TRUTH. NY Fans, especially Jets fans are some of the most intelligent in the league. That's why guys like Wayne and baz know the real deal. For a new stadium, this was the right thing for the franchise financially. But we all know, that's about it. This wasn't the best move to win ball games.</p> <p>The Jets O-line had struggled two years ago... The Jets brought in the beef with Faneca, Woody, Tony Richardson, Jenkins, Pace, etc... to turn this into a run first defensive team... You can all say what you want about Favre, but this team is better off without him. I appreciate what he's done for this league, but his time has passed. Those QB's who have come into the league after his mold are struggling. The bottom line is if he was the best option for Green Bay, they would've kept him. He is turning into a pre-madonna, and that just won't work for me. Us Jets fans need to demand more!!!</p> Wayne, couldn’t agree with you more… My family had season tickets until their move to Florida, but I still know a bunch of guys that go every Sunday for 20+ years. The last thing we need is a guy who is wearing Packers colors under our Jersey. The only way this team will ever earn some respect is to demand a commitment to this organization from each of their players… regardless of their last name… and yes, Tannenbaum should’ve been out, and Shannahan should’ve been in… but Ryan is a strong candidate and I’ll give the dude a chance! Love the Boss reference too!!! My wife’s a “Jersey Girl” so I gotta give Bruce his love!!!

Jeff- I definitely agree that the defense fell off in the second half of the season. In my opinion this is directly related to Time of Possession. The beginning of the year, the Jets were running the ball and allowing the defense to rest (most importantly Kris Jenkins) but in the second half of the year, this became a throw first team. That will hurt the defense every time. Look at what makes a good defensive squad… It’s a good running game and a quarterback that doesn’t put them in bad position.

IowaChick- I know it’s hard to accept the truth. It’s very hard to look at a guy who you root for and accept the truth that they just don’t have it anymore. Unfortuntatley, when you really look at the numbers, and the way Brett has held Green Bay hostage for the past 5 years it’s funny you feel this way. When it comes to our favorite guys, we turn a blind eye to the truth. I understand. Unfortunately, this is not a new thing I’m saying. I’ve been talking about this for the last 5 years. Brett Favre sells, because the NFL markets him too… not cause he’s the best QB. Unfortunately, if he does this crap in NY, we’ll call him on it. He was able to hide in Wisconsin for the last decade with fans like yourself that will just give him a pass, because those INT’s are so exciting… LOL!!!

Patrick- please bro, I beg of you not to ever call an interception “exciting, beautiful and full of passion for the game”

That’s like telling your kids that they don’t need to study all week for a test on Friday, as long as when they take that test that they do it with passion. They used to study and were the top of the class, but instead now they wing it on test day and fail with passion…??? Yup, very respectable.

Scott- You’re right… it’s a team game… but unfortunately in this league, you have guys making lots of money that are brought in for specific reasons.  BELIEVE ME, if Favre would’ve come into this team and managed this team to the best of his abilities without leading the league in PICK’s… ARE YOU GUYS PAYING ATTENTION? THIS GUY YOU’RE DEFENDING LED THE NFL IN INT’S, AND HAS DONE THAT MULTIPLE TIMES IN HIS CAREER!!!

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU ALL KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS THAT SOMEONE WITH HIS STATS @ 39 YEARS OLD WOULD’VE BEEN RAN OUTTA TOWN A LONG TIME AGO… BESIDES THE FACT WOODY WANTED TO SELL JERSEYS AND SELL PSL’S. THAT’S THE TRUTH.

NY Fans, especially Jets fans are some of the most intelligent in the league. That’s why guys like Wayne and baz know the real deal. For a new stadium, this was the right thing for the franchise financially. But we all know, that’s about it. This wasn’t the best move to win ball games.

The Jets O-line had struggled two years ago… The Jets brought in the beef with Faneca, Woody, Tony Richardson, Jenkins, Pace, etc… to turn this into a run first defensive team… You can all say what you want about Favre, but this team is better off without him. I appreciate what he’s done for this league, but his time has passed. Those QB’s who have come into the league after his mold are struggling.

The bottom line is if he was the best option for Green Bay, they would’ve kept him. He is turning into a pre-madonna, and that just won’t work for me. Us Jets fans need to demand more!!!

]]> By: Scott Thompson http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-127 Scott Thompson Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:43:05 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-127 by the way  Bart Starr's Career INT Percentage was 4.4% and Favre's is/was 4.2    Favre has thrown 440+ TD's    Star 120 something...   Bart Starr had  better teams/Lombardi...   I mean the  comparison is weak at best. .  by the way  Bart Starr’s Career INT Percentage was 4.4% and Favre’s is/was 4.2   

Favre has thrown 440+ TD’s    Star 120 something…  

Bart Starr had  better teams/Lombardi…  

I mean the  comparison is weak at best. . 

]]> By: Scott Thompson http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-126 Scott Thompson Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:39:27 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-126 Winning playoff games is a team effort.  Favre has only been on a couple teams with the "total package"   You Judge an individual player based on numbers ... yes wins are one of them but you really have to look at the big picture. Your report really failed to provide me with any "Aha!"  moments.  Cut the guy a break. Winning playoff games is a team effort.  Favre has only been on a couple teams with the “total package”  

You Judge an individual player based on numbers … yes wins are one of them but you really have to look at the big picture.

Your report really failed to provide me with any “Aha!”  moments. 

Cut the guy a break.

]]> By: Patrick T. Ranbdolph http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-113 Patrick T. Ranbdolph Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:12:27 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-113 Brett is the best gridiron player I have ever seen. To go 17 years without missing a game is truly phenomenal. We loved to watch him play. Even his interceptions are exciting, beautiful and full of passion for the game. Brett is a true humanitarian on and off the field. My personal opinion is that the JETS did not deserve him. It was mind boggling to watch him through 6 touchdowns against the Cardinals and see the stadium half empty. Bring him back to the Midwest where football is our religion. We’d love to see him play for the Vikings! Brett is the best gridiron player I have ever seen. To go 17 years without missing a game is truly phenomenal. We loved to watch him play. Even his interceptions are exciting, beautiful and full of passion for the game. Brett is a true humanitarian on and off the field. My personal opinion is that the JETS did not deserve him. It was mind boggling to watch him through 6 touchdowns against the Cardinals and see the stadium half empty. Bring him back to the Midwest where football is our religion. We’d love to see him play for the Vikings!

]]> By: iowachick http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-125 iowachick Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:12:37 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-125 There's a lot of old news in this article. Today (2-1-09) Mangold completely contradicted TJ about the atmosphere in the locker room. He felt there was great chemistry with Favre and they appreciated he just wanted to be treated as "one of the guys." Favre played as a great "game manager" through the Titans win. How do you know he wanted the other 11 to play his way? He had very little time to absorb the play book and did better when it was simplified. Don't forget the Jets had a winning season. However, Brett was sacked far more than he was used to. And when he started throwing badly, tell me--were there 10 other players playing great? No, the whole team collapsed. Kris Jenkins was struggling and admitted it. Ever think TJ had his great Season BECAUSE of Favre? Defense was busy going after Favre and had to create hole in the D lines. Anyway, I am sick of crap articles like this. The Jets were not a good match from the start and that is exactly why the Packers traded him there. They sure did not want him to succeed and I think he did damn good for the situation. Even the NFL has stated that without Brett Favre and the fans interested in him, revenues are down. If Woody got him to sell seats, it worked. Do you think people buy so many Jersey's because they can't stand him??? I hope Brett does not come back--especially to the Jets. He doesn't need all this crap bull when even a nine year player like TJ can diss on him in public and writers extrapolate it to the whole lockeroom. Coles was unhappy early because he was Chad's friend. Later he said, "Brett Favre is a true legend and he has done a lot more for my career that I have done for his." I do hope Brett is someplace we can see him. Sundays won't be the same without Brett and those wonderful will he or won't he passes. He needs at team that has an offensive line that can protect him, and runners who can catch, instead of having balls bounce off their numbers. Oh, and it would be good if he did not have teammates that foul so his TD's are called back. Affects his stats more than anybody's. You can just bury the rest of your remarks in the backyard. There’s a lot of old news in this article. Today (2-1-09) Mangold completely contradicted TJ about the atmosphere in the locker room. He felt there was great chemistry with Favre and they appreciated he just wanted to be treated as “one of the guys.” Favre played as a great “game manager” through the Titans win. How do you know he wanted the other 11 to play his way? He had very little time to absorb the play book and did better when it was simplified. Don’t forget the Jets had a winning season. However, Brett was sacked far more than he was used to. And when he started throwing badly, tell me–were there 10 other players playing great? No, the whole team collapsed. Kris Jenkins was struggling and admitted it. Ever think TJ had his great Season BECAUSE of Favre? Defense was busy going after Favre and had to create hole in the D lines.

Anyway, I am sick of crap articles like this. The Jets were not a good match from the start and that is exactly why the Packers traded him there. They sure did not want him to succeed and I think he did damn good for the situation.

Even the NFL has stated that without Brett Favre and the fans interested in him, revenues are down. If Woody got him to sell seats, it worked. Do you think people buy so many Jersey’s because they can’t stand him???

I hope Brett does not come back–especially to the Jets. He doesn’t need all this crap bull when even a nine year player like TJ can diss on him in public and writers extrapolate it to the whole lockeroom. Coles was unhappy early because he was Chad’s friend. Later he said, “Brett Favre is a true legend and he has done a lot more for my career that I have done for his.”

I do hope Brett is someplace we can see him. Sundays won’t be the same without Brett and those wonderful will he or won’t he passes. He needs at team that has an offensive line that can protect him, and runners who can catch, instead of having balls bounce off their numbers. Oh, and it would be good if he did not have teammates that foul so his TD’s are called back. Affects his stats more than anybody’s.

You can just bury the rest of your remarks in the backyard.

]]> By: jeff ircink http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-124 jeff ircink Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:40:58 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-124 brad - you forgot a couple things. the Jets' receivers are good - but did that reflect the season they had individually? Jets' D had 28 sacks in the first 8 games and 12 in the last 8. Jets' D ranked 4th worst in allowing passing yards per game and for the season. play calling by Mangini - disliked it even when the Jets were 8-3. O-line protection of Favre - average at best. brad -

you forgot a couple things. the Jets’ receivers are good – but did that reflect the season they had individually? Jets’ D had 28 sacks in the first 8 games and 12 in the last 8. Jets’ D ranked 4th worst in allowing passing yards per game and for the season. play calling by Mangini – disliked it even when the Jets were 8-3. O-line protection of Favre – average at best.

]]> By: Wayne Lewis http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Wayne Lewis Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:53:33 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-123 Twenty five years of season ticket holding watching this pathetic mess. Now it has become the same old, same old.  We were headed in the right direction with Tannebaum and Mangini.  Then, Tannebaum lost his mind and acquired a has been.  Everything we were building was sacrificed for selling PSL's in the new stadium. Tannebaum should have been fired for this mistake.  Brett Favre has become a Terrell Owens,  Keyshawn Johnson,  Stephon Marbury type.  Certainly not in a villanous, loud way,  but in the me first, poor teammate kind of way.  We don't need this indecision crap.  We don't need his lack of practice and dedication routine.  We don't need his sore arm.  Eric Mangini saw it.  Eric stood on the sidelines hogtied by management.  I'd bet money he wanted to replace Favre in the last 3 games and was denied by management. Now we have all kinds of coaching and philosophy changes, creating  more chaos.  As the real boss, BRUCE,  would say, we are on the DOWNBOUND TRAIN. Twenty five years of season ticket holding watching this pathetic mess. Now it has become the same old, same old.  We were headed in the right direction with Tannebaum and Mangini.  Then, Tannebaum lost his mind and acquired a has been.  Everything we were building was sacrificed for selling PSL’s in the new stadium.
Tannebaum should have been fired for this mistake.  Brett Favre has become a Terrell Owens,  Keyshawn Johnson,  Stephon Marbury type.  Certainly not in a villanous, loud way,  but in the me first, poor teammate kind of way.  We don’t need this indecision crap.  We don’t need his lack of practice and dedication routine.  We don’t need his sore arm.  Eric Mangini saw it.  Eric stood on the sidelines hogtied by management.  I’d bet money he wanted to replace Favre in the last 3 games and was denied by management.
Now we have all kinds of coaching and philosophy changes, creating  more chaos.  As the real boss, BRUCE,  would say, we are on the DOWNBOUND TRAIN.

]]> By: Brad Cotter http://thejetpress.com/2009/01/31/why-wont-the-jets-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-122 Brad Cotter Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:39:32 +0000 http://thejetpress.com/?p=242#comment-122 Well said brotha!   Well said brotha!  

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